Bryan Lewis: 0:04

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Bryan Lewis: 0:24

So today, on Miles from Main Street, Mykhailo is off in Disney World having a great time, but I am joined by Stephen and Kaity from Idiots Guide to Imagineering. How are you guys doing?

Stephen: 0:38

We are great Excited to be here.

Kaity: 0:41

Yeah, thanks for having us.

Bryan Lewis: 0:43

Thank you for coming on the show and helping me out. We're going to talk about the Miles from Main Street Halloween movie Madness, and before we do it, though, just want to give you guys the chance to go out and leave a review for the show. So please make sure you do that. It will really help us out. So, Stephen and Kaity, tell us a little bit about Idiots. Guide to Imagineering Sure.

Stephen: 1:07

Katie, you want to share?

Kaity: 1:09

Yeah, so we're at newer podcasts and we focus on the Disney parks and kind of reimagining them our way. So I know you had an episode a couple weeks back where you guys kind of redid some areas of Disney or like wanted to see what like needed improvements and kind of go from there we do kind of a full, deep dive into it and really try to present and paint a picture of what we would do if this was our experience, whether it be a ride, hotel, restaurant, all of that.

Bryan Lewis: 1:36

Awesome, that sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, we do a lot of that, but we don't. We just kind of scratch the surface. So that's got to be a lot of fun. So if you guys enjoy listening to us, do that. Maybe go check them out as well. So we ask everybody on the show and Stephen, I'll have you start with what connects you to Disney, what brought you to love Disney?

Stephen: 2:01

Yeah, so I'm a Disney kid through and through. I grew up in Alabama and my family took me probably every year since I was about three years old, and it's just always been a part of me, and so then I knew one day I would have to work there, and so I signed up for the Disney College program as soon as I could I think it was a sophomore in college, worked there and thought, okay, well, I'll do this and go back home and finish school and come back. But I stayed and worked at Disney for another several years and many different aspects. I worked in entertainment, I worked in attractions, I worked at a resort, so I kind of covered the Disney gamut of working there. And then my career led me deeper into hotels and now, kind of further away from that, more of an HR role. But Disney is always in my heart, and so that's why I created a podcast with a few other friends who we met, all working together at the parks.

Bryan Lewis: 2:57

That's awesome. I had no idea you were a cast member, so thank you for being a cast member and creating that.

Stephen: 3:03

I'm not sure anymore, but I was and it was a really special time for me.

Bryan Lewis: 3:08

That's great. So, katie, how about you?

Kaity: 3:12

So I was also a former cast member. I'm from South Florida originally, so I think we went to Disney probably at least once a month from as long as I could remember, so extremely lucky from that side. It's always been a part of my life. My dad and I were big fans, would have seasonal passes and come up all the time. I also did a college program, like Steven. We met and became friends since then, but it was great. I worked at Mouse Gear in 2009, RIP Mouse Gear but it was an awesome experience and, like Steven, I thought just go for a little bit and come back home and move on with my life. And that's not what happened. I finished my last semester of school, moved back up here, got more involved in hospitality Sadly, not still with Disney, but I do still work in the hospitality industry and more of a technologically standpoint, if that makes sense.

Bryan Lewis: 4:01

No, very cool. I love that you guys have got that connection to Disney. I just go there. Well, that was nice.

Stephen: 4:09

And then one day we decided well, now I need to go there and work there.

Kaity: 4:13

Yeah, my brother would say why don't you just live in the theme park? You love it so much. So I was like, okay, fine, I'll do that, and I did.

Bryan Lewis: 4:22

I've been pushing my daughter. She actually does have a goal to do the college program.

Stephen: 4:27

So we really does create life on friendships.

Kaity: 4:30

So we have nothing but totally support that. That's terrific.

Bryan Lewis: 4:34

Great, we might have to get you to talk to her a little bit.

Kaity: 4:40

Anything you need, let us know.

Bryan Lewis: 4:43

All right, well, I did Now. If you didn't get out to Instagram and check out the movie madness tournament that I did for Halloween, the posts are still out there. We did a few different rounds. I had picked 17 or 17, 16 movies. It was 17 at one time I was having trouble narrowing it down, but they were in four different groups that I put them in. One was kind of like the Halloween shorts or cartoons that they've done Disney Channel movies. I'm calling it the haunted mansion bracket because there were three haunted mansion. There were two movies in there and then just a movies bracket which had some fun ones in it. So I thought we could break down the tournament, talk about the movies, see what we like. I was surprised by some of these results, so I think this should be a lot of fun. Why don't we start with the shorts? You know it was the Lonesome Ghosts and the Mickey Mouse spooktacular was extremely close. At the end of the voting it was a 50-50 tie.

Stephen: 5:54

Wow.

Bryan Lewis: 5:54

Yes. So I broke it and voted for lonesome ghosts, because I am somebody that really enjoys more of the historical type of things. So Lonesome Ghosts moved on. What do you guys think about these two shorts?

Stephen: 6:10

You know I just went to watch Mickey Mouse Halloween Spooktacular this week and it was actually pretty interesting. I felt it. I didn't know what to expect but I felt I was super captivated by it, especially the musical number that Mickey does in a sparkly red sequin leotard. I was not expecting that whatsoever but I think I'm completely with you that lonesome ghosts is just a classic. The minute you see that a frame of it, you know that short and you know what it's been around. I think you made the right call in pushing that over the edge there.

Kaity: 6:45

I agree. I said to Stephen I was like I don't remember that at first and then I googled it and I was like, oh, one still shot of it and I knew exactly what the movie was. But I think also I liked the spooktacular. I felt like the art style was kind of cool and different. So I mean the classic. I think you again, I think you made the right choice with that one, but I feel like it's a cool, newer take on scary stuff and definitely surprising, but it was funny.

Bryan Lewis: 7:12

Yeah, I really enjoyed it because you get a couple of different stories out of Mickey.

Bryan Lewis: 7:15

Mouse and the spooktacular and I really enjoyed like how they none of them seem to be scary at first. They just keep going through that. Yeah, but Lonesome Ghosts. You know, we were in Disneyland for the first time in February and they just opened Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway so we got to go through that queue and there's a spot where the ghosts play in the mirror because that whole queue is based on like it's a museum of Mickey's history or whatever you know, like all of his career, and so there's like ghosts showing up in the mirror and it's from Lonesome Ghosts and I think that's just a neat detail.

Stephen: 7:56

They have.

Bryan Lewis: 7:57

So Just another connection, I guess, for me to Lone some Ghosts and help me push it over the edge. So yeah just, they're both great. You know the Mickey Mouse short that comes from Paul Rudish in his what they call it rubber hose arm. I believe Technique, and I've always loved all of those shorts. So it was. It was very difficult for me to pick one, but I went with the history. So yeah.

Kaity: 8:27

Support you.

Stephen: 8:28

We love going with history.

Bryan Lewis: 8:32

So trick or treat, which is the nephews and Donald Duck playing pranks on each other, or Toy Story of Terror. And Toy Story of Terror won this one quite easily, even though I prefer the history piece.

Kaity: 8:48

We agree. I'm a Donald fan, so I love anything that's like just focused on him. So I was a little sad about that, but it was so fun.

Stephen: 8:59

I'm wondering if this is a similar case to what Kaity was just saying, how she didn't think she knew Lone some Ghosts until she did. And I'm wondering if people looked at trick or treat and thought maybe I don't know what that is, and then it's just, it's so classic, like. I'm shocked at the results here, because I feel like trick or treat really should have taken the cake here. Not that Toy Story of Terror isn't great, it's just. I think Trick or Treat is just so well known. It's so Halloween, so classic Halloween.

Bryan Lewis: 9:27

It really is yeah, and you get Witch Hazel in there, which

Kaity: 9:34

I think it's so funny. I really I'm a big Donald fan, so I'm devastated by these results, but I'll somehow move on.

Bryan Lewis: 9:42

Well, and you know it's a Toy Story of Terror went up against Lones me Ghosts then, and maybe you're right, Stephen, maybe it was another one of those where it's like I don't know what that is, and so Toy Story of Terror moved on, which I was. I was a little surprised by that, right.

Stephen: 9:59

I mean, I love Toy Story and I love anything Toy Story, but I really just think Loan some ghosts is Halloween. Toy Story of Terror is something that was created for Halloween. That's there and good, but it's just not quintessential Halloween. I've got to watch it every year.

Bryan Lewis: 10:14

Yeah, although the hedgehog telling the different pieces of story like, oh, this is where everyone you know like pointing out that part. I love that in that show.

Kaity: 10:28

So I don't know, I'm still. I'm still sad about Trick or Treat, but he hasn't moved on.

Stephen: 10:36

She's breaking my heart with Lones ome ghosts, I don't know.

Bryan Lewis: 10:40

I'm just leaving her speechless, all right. So the next grouping was the like Disney Channel grouping, and the first matchup was Halloweent own and Spooky Buddies. Halloweent own had a good run at this one. They took him down almost three to one, so, or four to one, sorry.

Stephen: 11:07

Yeah, I think that was kind of an unfair battle there. Halloweent own just stands out to me as one of those top tier Halloween movies for me.

Kaity: 11:15

Spooky Buddies I love a dog, but no, I mean, Halloween Town is Halloween, like it has to move forward. So I'm not at all shocked at how well it did. I think it's just that that really, to me, is one of my favorite. And I was talking to Steven before this and I was like you know, I'm okay with who won, but Halloween Town is just like really up there for me as like a top tier Disney Halloween movie. It's just so classic.

Bryan Lewis: 11:42

It's nice to hear you say that, because prior to doing this, I had never watched Halloween Town.

Stephen: 11:46

No, Wow, Now we're both speechless. Wow yeah.

Kaity: 11:52

I grew up with that.

Bryan Lewis: 11:53

It's a little older, I think, and so I missed out on on when that came out. So, yeah, I was in college, I was in college, I think, when that came out, so I wasn't really paying attention to Disney at the time, but my wife and I did watch Halloween Town. And is it Halloween Town to revenge?

Stephen: 12:14

Yes, revenge of Calabar? I think Calabar yes.

Bryan Lewis: 12:17

Yeah, and we loved them, yeah.

Stephen: 12:20

So I think there are four you can keep going, but beware, the fourth movie will do you. They switched out the actress that plays Marnie, and with no explanation.

Kaity: 12:32

And they didn't get past us. We spotted that right away.

Bryan Lewis: 12:38

I've heard that the first two are worth watching, but not the other two.

Stephen: 12:41

Yeah, I think you can stop there.

Bryan Lewis: 12:46

Yeah. So you know, like watching Halloween Town move through the tournament was like, oh, I guess this is something. So and I know D23 is just held a this past weekend they held a celebration of the anniversary for 25 years, so it must be a big deal if they're going to throw a party, so some reels and tick tocks of the cast, kind of joking around and reuniting.

Kaity: 13:13

Yeah, I feel like that was the height of the D-Com like resurgent, where like all the really great D-Coms came out and I feel like that was like one of the first ones and then it just kind of kicked everything off from there. So I'm a big fan. Kimberly J Brown, you are amazing. Love you forever, awesome.

Bryan Lewis: 13:31

Yeah. So spooky buddies like that one's kind of close to me because my son watched it a lot. You'll hear it see a recurring theme, I think. But spooky buddies is a fun one. But knowing that what the juggernaut is at Halloween Town is, I guess at this point I'm not surprised.

Stephen: 13:52

Yep, that seems, that seems accurate. So then it was zombies and girl versus monster, yeah, and we'll be the first to admit that, like you, this may have been our pull away from Disney Channel, so we did miss these two. I know all about zombies. I've heard of it, I've just never actually watched it. But girl versus monster, that was brand new to me.

Kaity: 14:18

Yeah, we're trusting the viewers and what they voted for. We believe you guys made the right decision on this.

Bryan Lewis: 14:25

Yeah, I had heard about it. My daughter she loves girl versus monster, but I've never, never watched it. She was very upset that zombies was beating it, but zombies, like you had said, off the air. You had said like that kind of is in that string of high school music.

Stephen: 14:43

Yes, I feel like the musical is always going to just pull through and be a heavy hitter and pull in the crowd and, obviously, the votes.

Bryan Lewis: 14:53

Yeah, yeah, so it's. I don't know that you need to watch zombies, thank you for that, maybe when you do have kids later and they want to see something like that. It would be fun. I mean, once you've watched high school musical, I think you can, kind of you know, descendants, even you can understand what's happening in zombies already so, but zombies moves on. I can see that it was a popular set. There's three movies there, so that goes up against Halloween town and it wasn't even a contest 85 to 15.

Stephen: 15:29

No brainer Once again. Wow, mommy destroyed.

Kaity: 15:33

She took out those zombies.

Bryan Lewis: 15:37

Yeah, so we have our two final four. You know, I believe I called them frightful four as we were going.

Stephen: 15:46

Oh, I like that yeah.

Kaity: 15:47

Yeah.

Bryan Lewis: 15:48

Yeah, so I will leave them until we get back. We'll head over to the Haunted Mansion bracket. Let's start with Muppets, haunted Mansion and Hocus Pocus II.

Kaity: 16:01

I love the Muppets, anything Muppet related, so I was really, really glad things went my direction for this bracket because I did see Hocus Pocus II. I don't have a lot to say about it.

Stephen: 16:16

I think Hocus Pocus II was literally just for the fans to see them back together, and that's what we wanted. I think it gave us what we want. It's not the most engaging story of my entire life, but it's enjoyable to watch. It's just the Muppets Haunted Mansion, you can't argue with it.

Bryan Lewis: 16:35

No, you can't. Hocus Pocus II, I think, really fits into. If you've noticed, disney is getting away from the pure villain where it's more like fighting against yourself now, and I thought that was an interesting twist. On the witches, the sisters I've never seen them as absolute villains either, even from the first movie. They're just too much fun to be scary to me.

Bryan Lewis: 17:08

So I guess that works. But like you said, it was a weak storyline. I do want to see the teenager teenage witches kind of move on and see where they go. I think that there's something there.

Stephen: 17:22

There were a few laughs.

Kaity: 17:24

Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't all like I gave it a bad rap at the start. It wasn't all bad. I was expecting, I think, a little bit more from the story than what I got. But yeah, I kind of agree. I'd like to see what else they could do, but definitely for the fans.

Bryan Lewis: 17:41

And we're big fans of Hocus Pocus and you know, we might even be bigger fans of Muppets. So having the Muppets win this, one was great. I think the Muppets Haunted Mansion is wonderful. It was a great treat that they put out when they did it. It shows me that there is somebody with Disney that can figure out what to do with the Muppets. They just need to push that a little more.

Bryan Lewis: 18:08

And you know the recent Electric Mayhem show that they did also kind of prove that, so I hope they can keep running with that. I haven't watched Electric Mayhem yet. I need to.

Stephen: 18:18

No, I haven't seen it either.

Kaity: 18:21

But I feel like it does so well. Like it still does. Well, people want to see it and want more of it, so I don't know why there isn't a bigger push for that, but I really I just love it. Anytime there's anything Muppet related that gets into, like a voting contest or anything, I'm all for it. I will still be the first one to drag everyone over to Muppets 3D Vision, like I am ready. I love anything.

Stephen: 18:43

That is true. I have been there.

Kaity: 18:45

Yes, Rain or shine cold doesn't matter the weather we're going. I would agree Anytime you get to see Sweetums running around, you have to go right.

Bryan Lewis: 18:54

That was a dream role of mine when I worked there, but I never actually got to experience it.

Stephen: 19:01

That's magic for you.

Bryan Lewis: 19:05

So yeah, Muppets moved on with that one, and then there's the other one. I did this purposely. I wanted to put it out there right away and see what happens. I wanted to put it out there right away and see which haunted mansion movie was was tops. I kind of knew the answer already, but we took the Eddie Murphy 2003 version of haunted mansion and put it up against the brand new one from 2023 and 2023. One out, as it should.

Kaity: 19:37

As it should.

Stephen: 19:40

The 2003 version. I just feel like it was confused. I was left confused. I don't know where they were going with it. It was fun to see I mean, you got Raven in there, she's always fun to laugh with, but this new one.

Kaity: 19:58

I really wanted to like the 2003 one only because I'm a big Bravo fan and one of the girls from the real house of Beverly Hills. Her husband was the director of the 2003 one. So I wanted to like it because I like her. But I just can't. But, the one that was released this year was so good and such a surprise. I wasn't expecting it to be as much fun as it was, but it was. It's really a great movie.

Bryan Lewis: 20:22

I totally agree. I think the new one was wonderful. We did a little get together at the theater with some listeners and and watched it and it was. It was great. I walked out of there so happy. I loved it. I was disappointed that it didn't do very well. I kind of you know. I was hearing that they were going to start pushing movies back for when they would put them on Disney Plus, so I was kind of surprised they put it out as quickly as they did.

Bryan Lewis: 20:53

But maybe that's to hit the Halloween season as well.

Stephen: 20:59

Speaking of that, it really surprised me that the movie came out when it did.

Kaity: 21:03

I honestly expected.

Stephen: 21:03

Why wouldn't you wait to release it around October, halloween time, to get that draw in of people who are celebrating the Halloween festivities? But I guess that's that was the push to get it out and on Disney Plus in time for that.

Bryan Lewis: 21:18

It originally had a I think it was a September release date and they moved it up. I'm not sure why they did that. I know there was a reason for it and I can't they're trying to get out of out of the way of something else. I can't remember right now what it was, but yeah. But the other thing is that Hocus Pocus came out in the summer like that too, and it didn't do well either, but it's a cult classic at this point so maybe that's where this is headed and hopefully that will push Disney to bring more.

Bryan Lewis: 21:53

But I'm also seeing some not so good news about wanting to do a second haunted mansion movie. So, yeah, well, I mean, nothing official has been announced or anything like that, but you know there haven't been any talks on it yet, so maybe they're still waiting for the dust to settle and see what happens, but no pun intended yeah.

Stephen: 22:17

I just think you can really tell it was done by a fan and fans of the ride and it wasn't so in your face. I felt like they did a good job of subtly bringing in all of the details from the attraction into the movie without having it just be like a focus on me right here. It was done really, really creatively, I think.

Bryan Lewis: 22:37

I thought so too. And the story they gave to Hatbox Ghost like. I just thought that was terrific.

Stephen: 22:44

So unexpected to me, honestly.

Bryan Lewis: 22:46

Yeah.

Stephen: 22:47

I didn't know where they were going to go with it, and it was a cool turn.

Kaity: 22:52

I was really happy with the casting too. I feel like everybody that they had in that movie just kind of nailed it out of the park and was just great and what an interesting mix.

Kaity: 23:01

And anytime I can see Jamie Lee Curtis as Madame Lyoda can make me very happy, she was perfect for that. But great story. But yeah, I was actually watching it with my boyfriend and he's not as much of a Disney fan as I am, but he was like is that the real story of the ride? And I was like no, but it fits so seamlessly.

Bryan Lewis: 23:20

Like it's perfect and I don't think we need the actual story of the ride. I think we just need something fun and compelling, and I think they did that.

Stephen: 23:30

And emotional. It actually did plug it my heart. I was really expecting that.

Bryan Lewis: 23:37

No spoilers for anyone that hasn't watched yet, but I did like some of the twists that they had in there. Yeah, okay, so the new movie moves on and it goes up against. Muppets and I am in an I am in a haunted mansion group on Facebook that they've been kind of going back and forth Muppets new movie, muppets new movie. So we, we get, I guess it's, but the new movie is you know I'm 54, 46, so it was close.

Stephen: 24:13

But I'm happy with that. You know I I went and saw it a second time in theater, so I'm one of those people who's really, really into the new one.

Kaity: 24:21

That's just cuz you like popcorn. Yeah, I'm not mad about that. I obviously I love the Muppets, but again, I think those are both two really solid movies. So I'm really okay with either one of those making it forward, because I feel like they're pretty evenly matched In terms of being just really enjoyable and fun to watch.

Bryan Lewis: 24:43

Yes, I agree. Like it's hard to pick one, so I'm glad it was close. I Think I might have been pushing Muppets just because I'm more of a Muppets fan, but I, you know, I think it's a great choice either way.

Kaity: 24:58

So I feel the same way, partial to the Muppets, but I'm okay, I'm not peace with this.

Bryan Lewis: 25:06

Perfect, so yeah, so the new haunted mansion movie moves on to the frightful four. Let's finish out our Our last one here, the movies section Hocus Pocus going up against Tower of Terror.

Kaity: 25:23

I mean it's Hocus Pocus, do you like? Tower of Terror, though it is a classic in my mind. I don't know anybody else's, but in my mind it is. But I mean it's Hocus Pocus. I mean it kind of has to. That surprised the numbers on how much of a landslide it was, though I Guess I was surprised at how much of a landslide it was.

Bryan Lewis: 25:49

I'm wondering if People don't know what Tower of Terror is, but I feel like the Disney community knows so sure it's Kirsten Dunst, I mean.

Stephen: 25:58

I.

Kaity: 26:01

And the original sister from Boy Meets World.

Stephen: 26:04

And Jan Levison Gould from the office for you office fans out there.

Bryan Lewis: 26:09

I Did go looking to see if you could stream this and you can't you can't.

Kaity: 26:15

I was just reading about that the other day.

Stephen: 26:17

That's why it lost people.

Kaity: 26:19

I did if.

Stephen: 26:19

I could celebrate this this movie.

Bryan Lewis: 26:23

I did find it on YouTube and I just watched a little bit of the beginning and and the quality looks like it's there, so I might actually go watch that because I Haven't watched it in so long. We had it on DVD for a while but I, yeah, I'll have to go and and pick that up again because it was wonderful. I remember it coming out and my sister and I just loving all of it like that was our.

Bryan Lewis: 26:50

Yeah, that was before Disney, for us in Disney World, so it was like we were still dreaming, you know.

Stephen: 26:58

I'm gonna do the same thing right after we finish this. I'm gonna.

Bryan Lewis: 27:05

It was the first one that came up. I just started watching it and it yeah okay, good so easy find. The other one is nightmare before Christmas and Frank and weenie. I think we know where this is going. Yeah, I Admittedly have not seen Frank and weenie, so it was an easy choice for me. I.

Kaity: 27:27

Have seen Frank and weenie and it is cute. But a nightmare before Christmas is that is my Halloween movie. I love it. I could well Halloween or Christmas I haven't decided which I want to I but it's so good, I just love it. The music in it, everything's perfect. It's exactly what I would want from a spooky movie, and I remember seeing it when I was like five or six and I couldn't stop talking about it for like a solid two months afterwards and I was like I just have to go see it again. I have to see it. It's the greatest thing ever, and I still feel that way today.

Bryan Lewis: 28:01

I Did not see it when it came out and kind of wondered what it was for quite some time and only a few years, watched it a few years ago. I watched it and, yeah, it's wonderful To help you with that Halloween and Christmas thing. I actually Sat down the other night and turned it on and about 20 minutes into it kind of was like this doesn't feel right. We're trying to go through all over Halloween movies right now and I'm like I don't feel like I should be watching this yet Like it was.

Bryan Lewis: 28:35

Really yeah, I know, I just gotten done watching. What is this? You know the one he gets into Christmas Town and I'm going yeah, I think after Halloween.

Kaity: 28:49

I might have to watch this I also did.

Bryan Lewis: 28:52

I also decided that on November 1st, when I wake up that morning, I am going to turn on. What is this for the whole house to hear, because it's the perfect November 1st yes yeah.

Kaity: 29:05

My house immediately turns from Halloween to Christmas on November 1st, so I support you on this.

Bryan Lewis: 29:12

Yes at midnight. Maybe I'll get up at midnight and do it. There you go, wake up the whole house. Yeah, I'm.

Stephen: 29:23

Gonna give a hot take here on this movie. I find it absolutely terrifying. I I love the idea of the movie, but I have this phobia of stop motion animation and it just creeps me out so much. This isn't an annual watch for me, but I have seen it several times and I see the appeal. It's just frightening to me.

Kaity: 29:44

Maybe that's the point, but this is one of the first like. I guess I Guess it's a musical. It's one of the first like musical. I remember as a kid watching it and I just like would play the soundtrack in the house all the time. Never got old.

Bryan Lewis: 30:00

I, yeah, I like I said I never watched it. Now that I've I was into the music and now that I've watched it like it, it every time, it all, everything I see. You know it's. We got to watch it. I gotta have that. I get it, you know whatever it is, but Took me a while to get there. So Welcome.

Kaity: 30:18

Glad you made it over. Better late than never.

Bryan Lewis: 30:23

So when I was making the graphic and putting hocus pocus versus nightmare before Christmas, I felt like it was too early, but at the same time, this is the bracket I put it in like this is the category, it's under right. So I was like, okay, here we go. Like cuz. To me, I feel like these are the two big ones right, you'd picture this as your final two, right, mm-hmm right, but I put it out there early and it was.

Bryan Lewis: 30:51

You know it was a not as close as I thought it was going to be. I agree, you know I'm able to watch the votes as they're coming in and I'm seeing hook as pocus Get an early lead, you know like right away and Nightmare never really caught up and I was kind of surprised by that With all the nightmare fans out there. But go ahead.

Kaity: 31:16

I think it's like what you said. I think some people consider it more of a Christmas movie than Halloween and then I also think as well it is kind of creepy and like a cat like, like how Steven said, it can be creepy, so I could imagine it's not everyone's cup of tea. I feel like hocus pocus is a bit more commercial or mainstream and like it's fun and silly and you don't really feel scared watching it. Where I, I could see nightmare before Christmas, you walking away and feeling a little like I mean, it's a Tim Burton film, Tim Burton idea.

Stephen: 31:45

Yeah, mm-hmm yeah.

Bryan Lewis: 31:50

Like I said, I was kind of surprised, but I'm thinking Nightmare Before Christmas I'm going to do a Christmas one as well.

Kaity: 31:58

Oh good.

Bryan Lewis: 32:00

So listeners you're going to have to be watching for that, and maybe I'll put Nightmare in there too and see how it fares.

Kaity: 32:06

You should. Yeah, that would be interesting to see.

Bryan Lewis: 32:09

Yeah, so Hocus Pocus. I mean we've already kind of gone on about Hocus Pocus, but it moves on to the Frightful Four and it's one of my faves. So you know, here we are. We're in our Frightful Four here and we've got Toy Story of Terror going up against Halloween Town and it was kind of close 56 to 44. But Halloween Town moves on. Yes, what do you guys think?

Stephen: 32:42

I'm excited for that.

Kaity: 32:43

Yes, I'm surprised it was so close.

Bryan Lewis: 32:47

Me too, you know. All I can say is maybe it's the power of Toy Story.

Stephen: 32:52

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking it was. I think the Toy Story legacy is always going to give it momentum.

Bryan Lewis: 33:00

Yes, yeah. And now, on the other side, hocus Pocus goes up against the new haunted mansion. I'm not surprised Hocus Pocus wins out 30 years of history there, you know, and you know it was 63, 37. Not surprising.

Stephen: 33:19

Which is actually impressive for the new haunted mansion movie, though, having only been out for three months. If even that it's that it pulled that much weight, I'm impressed.

Bryan Lewis: 33:29

Yeah, and I wonder if you know, there are so many just pure haunted mansion fans out there that they're like whatever haunted mansion, I'm just voting for it, you know. But like we've said, it was a great movie, so I'm glad that it did this well against Hocus Pocus.

Stephen: 33:45

Yeah.

Kaity: 33:46

I think it could eventually be poised to be like a classic later down the line. I think I actually think it was a really solid movie. So I think, yeah, like you said, 30 years of history with Hocus Pocus, but I mean, I think it's already starting to show that it has a strong support base in getting a third of that vote, so maybe it'll be a classic in 10 years from now. We'll be talking about that.

Bryan Lewis: 34:05

I hope so. It would be great. Yeah, so with all the talk we've done, you know I feel like Hocus, pocus and Halloween Town. These are our juggernauts, right? Yes, you know, I talked about Nightmare being early in it but, as we said, it's got that ambiguity to it of where it fits. So, Hocus Pocus and Halloween Town. This was a difficult choice for me. I had watched it at this point Halloween Town but you know, Hocus Pocus is just great. Hocus Pocus 178-22. It's interesting that Halloween Town didn't do better thoughts on that.

Kaity: 34:56

I think a lot of the same people that really love Hocus Pocus also really love Halloween Town. But I think what draws Hocus Pocus well, I guess I can't really say that. I was going to say probably like growing up with it. But probably the same group of people that grew up with Hocus Pocus equally grew up with Halloween Town. So now I'm stumped, I don't know.

Stephen: 35:12

But I just think when you think Halloween movie, the first thing that comes to mind is Hocus Pocus. To me it's just synonymous with what's a Halloween movie we should watch, and everyone thinks that first. I personally think I would choose Halloween Town over Hocus Pocus, just for me. But I still think I even think Hocus Pocus first when I think of Halloween movies.

Bryan Lewis: 35:39

I totally agree, but it's hard for me to say that with not knowing anything about Halloween Town until recently. Maybe there's a little bit of disconnect between Hocus Pocus, which has such a great following at this point in Halloween Town, which I'm learning has a great following, but maybe it's not quite as popular as Hocus Pocus.

Kaity: 36:06

Well, obviously it must not be if I'm also thinking maybe people didn't have or maybe not as many people had Disney Channel growing up too, so that could be another thing where, as Hocus Pocus was released in cinema and people own the movie and things like that, maybe if you weren't exposed to it like you said, you didn't see it until very recently, so it could be a lot of people haven't seen it outside of growing up with the Disney Channel.

Bryan Lewis: 36:30

It's interesting you say that because Disney Channel was a paid channel at one time.

Kaity: 36:35

So I never had it.

Bryan Lewis: 36:37

I never had it. We always got those weekends of Disney.

Stephen: 36:40

Channel. Yeah, remember that. Oh yeah, I loved it. It was a big deal. Yeah because you got a lot of parks, commercials and stuff.

Bryan Lewis: 36:49

Yeah, so I think for me I've never been a Disney Channel watcher because I never really had it, and so when I went to Disney Channel when I would have it, it was always kids shows at that point. I guess because it so it wasn't ingrained in me. But but yeah, I. You know how hocus pocus Wins out. I don't know much how much more there is to say about it at this point.

Stephen: 37:20

It just. It just is what it is. It is the movie, it is for the seasons, it really is Um gosh.

Bryan Lewis: 37:28

I can't wait to do this with Christmas, because there's so many Christmas movies that you could say that about like this is Christmas, you know, so that I think it's gonna be exciting to do that. I'm ready to vote already.

Kaity: 37:42

Mm-hmm, I think that was gonna be intense. I feel like there's for Christmas movie. People get passionate about what they're into, so I think that'll be exciting to see.

Bryan Lewis: 37:50

I think so too. We'll have to bring you guys back to talk about that.

Kaity: 37:55

Any time. Can't shut us up work. We'll talk about anything.

Bryan Lewis: 38:01

All right, so we do trivia here on the show and People know that I like to draw cards out of the wonderful world of Disney trivia game, so we'll have you guys work together. I will read off the questions one by one. They are different Categories, like a trivial, trivial pursuit type of thing. So okay, first question which winged character from the Little Mermaid is known for his misunderstanding of humans?

Stephen: 38:32

Well, that's an easy one, Katie. Do you want to say should? I know you say it scuttle.

Kaity: 38:37

Okay, I was gonna say I'm very competitive and I always lose. Watch it's okay.

Bryan Lewis: 38:45

We can cut it out if you're wrong.

Kaity: 38:49

Shut it up.

Bryan Lewis: 38:53

All right. Question two in the shaggy dog. What object do the spies refer to as section 32? A ring, a pocket watch or a bracelet?

Kaity: 39:06

So I genuinely don't know the answer.

Stephen: 39:09

I'm gonna say a pocket watch.

Bryan Lewis: 39:12

You are right, it is a Watch. I used to love the movie, but I don't remember any of it. I'm gonna have to go watch it that was a guess. Side note, I did go watch the original ladybug and I had like a blast watching it. It was unbelievable. I'm like what other old movie can I watch? And we watch Swiss family Robinson from the 60s.

Stephen: 39:37

That's a good one, I do that I recently watched Iqabahd Crane with wind in the will, wind in the willows and I hadn't seen that in 20 years, and so just watching it again, I was like whoa, this is crazy to see again. And it's, it is a fun watch.

Bryan Lewis: 39:51

Yeah, you know, it's interesting, I think about that. Iqabahd Crane and and mr Toad, that came to as a package group, right, yep, and I think about those. I never even thought about it for this. Putting that in here, I Next year, all right. So between 1990 and 1996, what was the only year that a Disney song did not win the Academy Award for best song?

Stephen: 40:28

I'm nine. I'm trying to think okay, so mermaid was 89, was Beauty and the Beast 91? So I'm gonna say 91.

Kaity: 40:38

Wait, you said it was between which year 1990 and 96.

Bryan Lewis: 40:42

Yes, because then you had.

Stephen: 40:44

Aladdin, you had Lion King Mulan Pocahontas.

Kaity: 40:50

I'm gonna say 95, just cuz I'm gonna go wrong.

Stephen: 40:52

Okay.

Bryan Lewis: 40:53

I'm going 90, it was 94.

Stephen: 40:56

No, yeah that was right before what Lion King was, probably that dead year.

Bryan Lewis: 41:03

I'm thinking that had to have been.

Stephen: 41:05

Yeah.

Kaity: 41:05

King, yeah, cuz I'm thinking, lion King came out in 94. So I was getting him switched.

Bryan Lewis: 41:14

Now I want to go look at it.

Stephen: 41:16

I don't think there's a big animated movie that came out that year, so I think this is. The Lion King it was yeah, but maybe the Academy Award?

Kaity: 41:26

they didn't have probably the following year.

Stephen: 41:27

So, yeah that's what it was.

Kaity: 41:31

Wow, ask me when the Lion King comes out, I'll get that right.

Stephen: 41:36

That's the very first movie I ever saw in theaters.

Kaity: 41:38

Oh really.

Stephen: 41:39

Mm-hmm.

Kaity: 41:40

Oh.

Bryan Lewis: 41:42

I don't know why, but little mermaid was huge for us really yeah. Yeah, and well, my girls love Ariel as well. But when I was in seventh grade, eighth grade, when it came out, I remember like it didn't matter who you were guy or girl you were, you were in the theater.

Stephen: 41:59

Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

Bryan Lewis: 42:03

All right, this one's starting off kind of interesting. The Greek god Apollo. I'm not up on my Greek stuff, so okay, the Greek god Apollo is featured in what two Disney animated classics?

Stephen: 42:17

Oh, okay, well, I'm gonna guess hercules. Yeah to be safe? It's probably not even that. And then?

Kaity: 42:28

I think it's probably not right, but I'm just gonna say Fantasia just because I feel like there's a lot of interesting characters that pop up in Fantasia.

Bryan Lewis: 42:36

I don't know you actually you've hit both of them. No way.

Stephen: 42:40

Yes.

Kaity: 42:41

Wow, look at us Doing better than I thought, yeah.

Bryan Lewis: 42:50

Yeah, All right. So the last one is Mousselineas. What honor does the Walt Disney company bestow upon individuals who have made significant contributions to Disney over the years?

Stephen: 43:06

We know that. Yeah, oh, is there a?

Bryan Lewis: 43:08

cast members. You gotta know this, yep.

Kaity: 43:12

Go. Disney legend yes, Highlights some legends on our show we do imagineer of the week and they're usually Disney legends that we try to highlight. Oh, Nice. I am not.

Bryan Lewis: 43:27

I'm gonna add your podcast to my list and check that out, all right, well, guys, thank you so much for coming on the show. So how best can we go find your show?

Stephen: 43:45

Yeah, so the easiest way to find us is we're idiots guide to imagining on Spotify, apple and pretty much anywhere you listen to podcast. But you can also find us on Instagram at idiots imagineering just those two words. We're also on tick, tock and threads. We don't really know what we're doing on there, so Instagram is our main thing, but you can follow us there as well if those are more your speed.

Bryan Lewis: 44:09

And I'll be sure to conclude links in our show notes to those spots. You can find us out on Instagram we are at miles from Main Street and also on Facebook and our Facebook community group, miles from Main Street community. Come on out there and join us for some fun. So that's all we have for this week. Thank you again for coming out, but, like we always say, some live close and others don't. So let's talk about it. We'll see you next time on miles from Main Street.

Stephen: 45:06

You.